They also kept the "Bandon" cheese brand. I'll never buy Tillamook. What about the use of rBST in the Tillamook milk. Kaste vs. Kaste still sends milk to Tillamook Cheese every day along with many others. Ole Keith. Is about to get on his soap box and go Virgil on these people!!!! They had to grow or go out of business. That's how it works.
In a few short years, we won't have local telephone companies. We will put them out of business with our need for instant gratification and affordable phone service. Could any of us live without our precious cell phone? People will lose jobs or go work for the corporation. The small company will not be able to keep up with our demands. Buy and enjoy Tillamook brand Dairy products because it does provide income for Tillamook County That's all I gotta say about that.
My complaint is "why is tillamook cheese more expensive in tillamook than anywhere else? I don't see any trolling here. Having a different point of view and expressing it isn't trolling. Regardless of your point of view on this, I think discussing opposing opinions in an open forum is healthy. We don't want to live in an information vacuum. Tillamook couldn't keep up with the demand or shipping from their original coastal location. They had to expand the operation. If you have no experience raising cattle or running a dairy operation, then don't be too quick to agree with the author.
Will continue to buy Tillamook cheese products for my family. Thanks, everyone, for your comments. To reply to a few of those above: - Anonymous: I can find no record of a "Neil Kaste" in relation to a court case with Land o' Lakes. There is one that dealt with a Neal Kaste different spelling than you gave who sued over tainted feed from Land o' Lakes, where his cows were slowly poisoned by bad feed.
Link for that case here. If you could provide a link to the case file you referenced, I'll check it. In this case, it seems like Tillamook went with the industrial model in their partnership with Threemile Canyon Farms.
Jon Bansen, a farmer Polk County in Oregon, milks cows and grazes and harvests acres of land. He sells most of his milk to Organic Valley and is paid well over market price for it. But there are many small farmers who don't, and more are leaving calves with their mothers for longer periods and wean them at an appropriately mature stage.
Here's a research paper on that topic that explored various methods of calf-rearing with dairy cows. Other folks can decide for themselves based on their own research into the issues, but it's important that people have solid information on which to base those decisions.
Anonymous, abusive or off-topic rants aren't allowed, and I delete those without posting them, since I moderate all comments here. And so far there haven't been any. Thanks to everyone for that! BTW, the definition of a "troll" is "a person who sows discord on the Internet by starting arguments or upsetting people, by posting inflammatory, extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community with the intent of provoking readers into an emotional response or of otherwise disrupting normal, on-topic discussion, often for the troll's amusement.
Why be so rude? We all make choices based on our ethics and goals in life. Many are fine with industrial food production while others prefer to support local economies. Lighten up dude! So what cheese company do you suggest buying from? I don't live in an area with specialty markets or cheese producers. I don't buy Kraft products because of big tobacco.
Are Kirkland Brand products off this list due to supporting Costco? Where are private label cheeses for grocery stores made? What about buying from out of state or out of country small batch or family produced cheeses? Isn't that a carbon footprint issue then? I can't boycott everything Safeway milk plant uses a lot of family dairy farms from the Pacific northwest coast,my husband works at the milk plant as a raw receiver. Kathleen, Can you recommend a local producer of fine, affordable, humane, cheddar cheese?
And, no, I'm not buying Safeway cheese, Mr. Paula - buy Tillamook. It supports local Oregonians. Threemile Canyon Farms employs fulltime, year-round employees. Go to your local farmers market or food co-op and find a cheese source. It will be more expensive yes. Accept that. I was waiting to see if anyone would bring up what they did to Bandon.
That was one of the nastiest things That whole situation was so ugly. I have a better idea for all of that liquid manure, pond it and tent it and turn the Methane into power by running generators then sell that to PGE as a renewable resource. Hi Kathleen, I'm sorry you feel the way you do about Tillamook Cheese. As one of the family farmer owners of the co-op, your comments are upsetting to me and hurtful to my family's livelihood.
I disagree with some of the things you say, but defend your right to say them. Just remember you are hurting some of the family farmers you say you want to protect. Now Ivy I didn't call you or anyone else a name.
I was raised in Tillamook. I worked for the very dairies the author spoke of. Did you know? There were several Tillamook cheese factories up and down hwy from south Tillamook County to Tillamook. Some of these buildings are still standing. They aren't cheese factories anymore because it became costly and in-efficient. Trucking took the place of a need for so many buildings, people moved or lost their job.
The cheese factory has evolved over the years and so has the dairy farmer. They had to, to keep up with the demand of us. There is very little profit margin in milk. If you look at the price of a gallon of milk it compares to a gallon of gasoline today and in when I was working for dairies. How can a small farm make a living off of that. They couldn't. They either grew or sold out. They aren't making anymore land, so they have to be effecient with the land they have.
All I'm saying is; it's us, not big business that is driving it. We want cheese and we want it cheap. I live near Portland now. People make their own cheese, butter, and cream. It's raw, unpasteurized, and unregulated. He can do whatever he likes unless someone gets sick, then he,s screwed. The cheese factory is very regulated and that cuts into profit. Here is the kicker: we will all do whatever we have to, to survive.
None of us just want to survive, we long to thrive. Profit is how we thrive. The cheese factory isn't here to survive, it's here to thrive and so are its employees. You just changed my buying habit. I always thought Tillamook was local and farm friendly. Not buying another thing from them. How disappointing. Kathleen, thank you for your reply. I guess growing up in Tillamook and knowing how many families he chose factory raised, got my blood boiling and got the best of me a little.
The cheese factory was too big for the organic model and too small to keep up with demand. It had to go corporate in my opinion. I think the organic model is great and hopefully it can keep enough dairies operating. But I don't think you will see a bunch of new dairies popping up. I just want to make the point that we drive all this with our demand for safe affordable dairy products. Let's not blame Tillamook. It's still made mostly in Oregon and USA, and creates many local jobs. If you don't like it, eat cheese from Wisconsin.
Last resort from a foreign nation. After the cheese factory started bullying their neighbors for using the name Tillamook, I stopped buying their product. Sucky company in my opinion! Not surprised the cows that make them money are kept in poor conditions.
Paula makes a good point. We can't boycott everything. Sometimes it comes down to choosing the lesser of the evils, unless you plan on keeping a herd of cows in your back yard and making your own cheese at home. I've also seen it sold in shops in Kenya. My work tasked me to these places but summers are in Tillamook County.
I still stop for ice cream at Barview Jetty store. Best prices and portions. Too bad about the treatment of dairy cows. It bothers me as my family were farmers in Ohio a couple generations ago. Maybe a new cheese company is needed in Tillamook. For Paula and Jerry Ketel, who asked for recommendations: Because I need to buy aged cheeses as mentioned in the post my husband is lactose-intolerant but loves cheese , I've been trying aged cheddar from Face Rock Creamery in Bandon—which coincidentally reopened the Bandon creamery after Tillamook bought it and subsequently closed it down.
Other people have recommended Organic Valley cheese, which has a medium cheddar. Both are at least double the cost of the Tillamook versions but, as they say in the food world, cheap isn't always cheap on all fronts.
I'd be interested to hear what others are using. And on the other comments: - Keith, thanks for toning it down. This is a decision I made for my family based on research I did myself, which I've shared here. My philosophy, and that of Good Stuff NW, is that it's important to know where your food comes from and make buying decisions based on information rather than marketing.
Everyone has to make a living. My concern is with the practices of Threemile Canyon as outlined in the post and the toll that exacts on the livestock, the workers, the environment and the small dairies and local communities in our state. It's a purely personal decision what cheese people buy. I'm just sharing the reasons for my decision, whatever that amounts to.
Thanks everyone for your comments and for keeping the discussion civil and on-topic. It's not an easy discussion to have. Wow,that is very informative.
I hate to think of the baby calfs crying for their mothers and vs. A versa. The way you have described their short lives producing calves and enlarged utters makes me sick! I have to admit I tend to stick my head in the sand because I really don't want to hear of the cruelty that cows are put through for not only milk but meat. However,I acknowledge that because of this and for the sake of the environment, I really do need to be more aware and probably become a vegetarian and buy cheese from small farms.
Thank you for your post. Thank you for this information, I used to love Tillamook cheese Threemile Canyon has a methane digester that burns for electricity into the grid. Do some homework and you would find that. TCCA also was busted quite a few years ago by the EPA for sending untreated food waste into Tillamook Bay, endangering the shellfish industries operating there. You had to read the Daily Astorian to find out that TCCA was fined and required to do the clean-up and change their operating practices.
I also live in Tillamook County and have no disagreement with comments made by other Tillamook County residents. Some dairies here are quietly moving toward organic practices. My understanding is the premium paid for OG milk far offsets the additional attention that a farmer must provide to the herd One OG farmer told me years ago, "less stress, same amount of money. Kathleen Bauer. Thank you for this discussion. Although I'm sure you had some comments that you chose not to post and I thank you for that , this was one of the best open discussions I have read or heard of in so so long.
I've lived in Oregon since I was I'm now Tillamook Cheese has been a main stay as much as the Coastal Range has. I don't eat as much cheese as I use to, but I had been eating Tillamook after I was reading the ingredients on some of the other brands.
Especially the sliced cheese and shredded cheese products. Other makers of cheese, add SOY to their products!!!! I don't remember the brand names, but next time you are looking at cheese, check it out.
When I want cheese, I want cheese I'm sure those figures have changed since then, with Niki, Intel, etc. However, one thing that remained with me from the class was this fact: For every small business, there comes a time when they must make a choice. This usually involves the owner moving from developing and working the business hands on to doing more of the office type of business. Moving from the production floor to the board room, per say. It sounds like Tillamook made the 2 choice.
The conditions and treatment of the cows is horrible and will cause me to think about whether to continue buying Tillamook or not. I most likely will check into some of the other options given here. Oh yes, and thank you for the description of what a "Troll" is Keeping the pot stirring.. Years ago, I chose to not watch news programs When I was younger, a journalist truly sought The Truth That type of journalist no longer exist.
Now it is simply someone reading a script that is politically movitvated Truth is hard to find any more. Thank you for taking the time to research and then share that research with us. I so so so appreciate it. Exactly ,those people who don't care won't even finish the article ,but for those of us who vote with their dollars I'm glad I saw this.
I haven't spent a dime at McDonald's in over 35 years. I remember when they sold Real Food. Thank you I am heartened to see that there are still people who recognize the importance of courtesy in society.
Different opinions need not be socially divisive. So, what kind of choices do cows have that are crammed into factory buildings where they can't even get out of the sewage to lay down and sleep?? Cows are intelligent beings. Many humans are not. We are all responsible for the well being of life around us. I quit Tillamook cheese when it got too expensive.
My doctor took me off of Tillamook Ice Cream because it wasn't good for me. Both are too high in cholesterol. Food Storage - How long can you keep Tips How long does a chunk of cheddar cheese last once opened?
The exact answer to that question depends to a large extent on storage conditions - keep the cheese refrigerated at all times. To maximize the shelf life of a chunk of cheddar cheese after opening, wrap the original packaging tightly in plastic wrap or aluminum foil; for even better results, wrap the cheese first in wax or parchment paper and then cover with plastic wrap before refrigerating. How long does a chunk of cheddar cheese last in the refrigerator once opened?
Properly stored, an opened chunk of cheddar cheese will last for about 3 to 4 weeks in the refrigerator. Is an opened chunk of cheddar cheese still safe after the "sell by" date or "best by date" on the package? Freezing can cause the texture to degrade, so the best place to store cheese is as far from the freezer as possible. Keep it in the vegetable drawer or on a bottom shelf where the temperature is consistent but not too cold.
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